Eircom + interleaving

[nuxx]

Hello , im just wondering what eircoms situation is with interleaving , im getting pretty annoyed with my pings and want it turned off, from what i heard lots of isps are willing to do this and only takes 2-3 days

if some eircom people wudent mind pinging these 2 ips and give my there results it wud be great thanks

84.244.144.63

81.3.59.170

the exchage is right beside my street so that isnt a issue
thx in advance
nuxx

[RoninIV]

Eircom uses low interleaving for Residential packages and the opposite for business packages. Here is a decent link that shows a little insight into the workings of eircom.
eircom i-stream ADSL
As to your ip's heres my results:

Pinging 84.244.144.63 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 84.244.144.63: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=58
Reply from 84.244.144.63: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=58
Reply from 84.244.144.63: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=58
Reply from 84.244.144.63: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 84.244.144.63:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 23ms, Maximum = 25ms, Average = 23ms

P:\>ping 81.3.59.170

Pinging 81.3.59.170 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 81.3.59.170: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=50
Reply from 81.3.59.170: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=50
Reply from 81.3.59.170: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=50
Reply from 81.3.59.170: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 81.3.59.170:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 29ms, Maximum = 30ms, Average = 29ms

[jjjtuohy]

Originally Posted by nuxx

Hello , im just wondering what eircoms situation is with interleaving , im getting pretty annoyed with my pings and want it turned off, from what i heard lots of isps are willing to do this and only takes 2-3 days

if some eircom people wudent mind pinging these 2 ips and give my there results it wud be great thanks

84.244.144.63

81.3.59.170

the exchage is right beside my street so that isnt a issue
thx in advance
nuxx

I can sympathize and only now realize that interleaving is ruining my online gaming experience.
I'm with Eircom 500metres from the Nenagh Exchange.
The packageis 2MB Home Plus but the QOS & bandwidth dropped drastically when I upgraded from the 1MB Home Starter. Average bandwidth is now 30K to 100K.
This is barely acceptable for simple downloads & surfing. What is totally unacceptable is the QoS ranging from 5-30%.

What use is this when online gaming??? The ping averages 40-50ms which is substandard. To aggravate the situation, constant dropouts of 500ms to 1500ms ruin the response times required.

There seems to be no decent data-rate management and if Eircom are in the 21st century they should understand that a 40K minimum guaranteed uninterrupted data-rate is essential to the gaming community; a 100K average is useless if it includes 1.5 second dropouts.

To add insult to injury, the service drops out completely every few hours. I have to run a continuous 1bit ping in the background to maintain service. Surprisingly enough, this also tends to maintain the data-rate at a reasonable level. It looks like Eircom are using some kind of hybrid on demand DSL with basic unmanaged 48-port switches at the exchange and a high level of interleaving to compensate for bad lines.

Multiple calls to support only result in temporary performance improvements. Currently I am so frustrated with this service that I have been advising everyone to shift to a more progressive service.

Can anyone advise on this???

LONG LIVE LLU !!!!!!

[Gwasanaethau]

Originally Posted by jjjtuohy

I can sympathize and only now realize that interleaving is ruining my online gaming experience.
I'm with Eircom 500metres from the Nenagh Exchange.
The packageis 2MB Home Plus but the QOS & bandwidth dropped drastically when I upgraded from the 1MB Home Starter. Average bandwidth is now 30K to 100K.
This is barely acceptable for simple downloads & surfing. What is totally unacceptable is the QoS ranging from 5-30%.

What use is this when online gaming??? The ping averages 40-50ms which is substandard. To aggravate the situation, constant dropouts of 500ms to 1500ms ruin the response times required.

There seems to be no decent data-rate management and if Eircom are in the 21st century they should understand that a 40K minimum guaranteed uninterrupted data-rate is essential to the gaming community; a 100K average is useless if it includes 1.5 second dropouts.

To add insult to injury, the service drops out completely every few hours. I have to run a continuous 1bit ping in the background to maintain service. Surprisingly enough, this also tends to maintain the data-rate at a reasonable level. It looks like Eircom are using some kind of hybrid on demand DSL with basic unmanaged 48-port switches at the exchange and a high level of interleaving to compensate for bad lines.

Multiple calls to support only result in temporary performance improvements. Currently I am so frustrated with this service that I have been advising everyone to shift to a more progressive service.

Can anyone advise on this???

LONG LIVE LLU !!!!!!

Aha! So that's why I wasn't able to play StarCraft despite a decent upload rate. I noticed that whenever I test my Eircom connection through Windows, it would upload quickly, then stop for a couple of seconds, then continue for a few seconds, then stop, etc. Using a different speed test site that used longer duration tests, I'd get 200kbps upload (pretty decent), but on Irish ISP Test it would say about 100kbps with 220kbps burst, which is useless for gaming. As to why it only happens in Windows and not in Linux, I don't know. Maybe Linux constantly pings the connection automatically? Interesting, though…

Just a question - how do you run the continuous background ping? Maybe it might help my connection to Battle.net along too!

[jjjtuohy]

on command line:

ping eircom net Homepage -t -l 1 -w 60

best of luck and don't spread this one too far or Eircom could block it.


PS: this site has edited my eircom dot net target to a link

[Gwasanaethau]

Thanks. Unfortunately, it doesn't do anything for me - all it does is eat up space for the download. My upload still runs intermittently. A nice thought though, and certainly worth a try!

Thanks again!

[jjjtuohy]

Originally Posted by Gwasanaethau

Thanks. Unfortunately, it doesn't do anything for me - all it does is eat up space for the download. My upload still runs intermittently. A nice thought though, and certainly worth a try!

Thanks again!

Ahem, it only sends a 1 bit query every second. Thats 1/8000th of a K with the trimmings.
ping home.eircom.net -n 1 -l 1 -w 20 -t

Sorry it didn't hold the door open for you.

[Gwasanaethau]

Originally Posted by jjjtuohy

Ahem, it only sends a 1 bit query every second. Thats 1/8000th of a K with the trimmings.
ping home.eircom.net -n 1 -l 1 -w 20 -t

Sorry it didn't hold the door open for you.

Yeah, I thought it was strange too. I guess a ping every second sends back a (relatively) large echo every second too. Thought the download speed doesn't matter too much, it's the upload that seems to be the problem.

Thanks for the suggestion, though!

[jjjtuohy]

Pinging 84.244.144.63 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 84.244.144.63: bytes=32 time=59ms TTL=59

Reply from 84.244.144.63: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=59

Reply from 84.244.144.63: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=59

Reply from 84.244.144.63: bytes=32 time=76ms TTL=59



Ping statistics for 84.244.144.63:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 52ms, Maximum = 76ms, Average = 64ms



Pinging 81.3.59.170 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 81.3.59.170: bytes=32 time=66ms TTL=59

Request timed out.

Reply from 81.3.59.170: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=59

Reply from 81.3.59.170: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=59



Ping statistics for 81.3.59.170:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 46ms, Maximum = 66ms, Average = 54ms