IBB throttling i think so - Irish ISP Test - Broadband Forum

gazeveritt · #1 (**permalink**) 9th August 2007, 11:41 AM

Tried 2 seperate FTPs that are verified to max out my connections, need large media files for work, was going great for the first month and now all of a sudden their giving me 0-15kb/s during the day, might work better at night also torrents would run faster at the same time...tried the speed test and it came back as

Date Download Speed Upload Speed Qos RTT Maxpause
09/08/2007 11:36 2331 kbps (285 KB/s) 1922 kbps (235 KB/s) 74 % 40 ms 180 ms
06/08/2007 19:55 2402 kbps (294 KB/s) 2207 kbps (270 KB/s) 64 % 41 ms 322 ms
06/08/2007 16:12 2884 kbps (353 KB/s) 2398 kbps (293 KB/s) 96 % 36 ms 165 ms
06/08/2007 16

5 2836 kbps (347 KB/s) 2381 kbps (291 KB/s) 96 % 34 ms 181 ms
06/08/2007 16

2 2898 kbps (354 KB/s) 2368 kbps (289 KB/s) 96 % 40 ms 178 ms
06/08/2007 16

0 2826 kbps (345 KB/s) 2382 kbps (291 KB/s) 94 % 33 ms 184 ms
06/08/2007 15:52 1748 kbps (214 KB/s) 2424 kbps (296 KB/s) 71 % 40 ms 238 ms
Total Averages:
2561 kbps (313 KB/s) 2297kbps (281KB/s) 85 % 38 ms 207 ms

so speed looks good...they must be doing something, rang them up they said their doesnt seem to be anything wrong.....anyone else have this kinda problem??

Sean · #2 (**permalink**) 9th August 2007, 01:57 PM

Going by your speed test results you reported, your connection seems to be running as expected with a few results better than the best I've seen from my 3Mbps DSL connection.

The next time you notice your speed running connection running slow, could you run a speed test at that moment? Also, try running a test download from the 15MB file at BT Openworld This usually gives a reliable result for your maximum transfer rate.

gazeveritt · #3 (**permalink**) 9th August 2007, 04:23 PM

thats whats so puzzling, the speeds are fine when checked, but yet would still get slow downloads off the FTP...

zepp irl · #4 (**permalink**) 9th August 2007, 09:02 PM

i have IBB 3mb line a few years back worked gr8 for a few months in the winter loved it then summer came and everything changed my connection was up and down like a yoyo. One second perfect next gone then perfect then gone again call IBB e everything was perfect for there end etc... finally got 2 guys out to the house and the answer they gave me after 15mins of tunning the aerial in 3 differant directions was its summer the trees around my area had bloomed for the summer and the leeves moving in the wind where disrupting my signal.
I know its hard not to laugh but thats the BS answer i got, gobsmacked i was with the answer. so they took it away......

BluthBanana · #5 (**permalink**) 28th September 2007, 09:24 PM

I have 3meg ADSL. My speeds on torrents have gone right down to 50kB/s recently. Anyone having the same problem.

Gerry22scopes · #6 (**permalink**) 1st October 2007, 02:27 PM

Yeah I've had 2Mb Breeze in Limerick and my torrent speeds have dropped right down from 240k/B to 15-20k/B.

I was going to ring IBB about it cos all my settings haven't changed.

I take it you are having the same trouble Bluthbanana ?

My speed tests are all coming back fine 1.8 - 1.9 M/b. Even d/l's from Rapidshare are fine. Are IBB traffic shaping Traffic shaping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ?

BluthBanana · #7 (**permalink**) 1st October 2007, 04:42 PM

Has to be throttling. I have the adsl, and like you all my speed tests are coming back good.

How much do you download. I download a lot, and have probably taken advantage of their no limit cap. I'm hoping that maybe this is only a temporary thing. TBH I'd rather have a cap than have my speeds throttled like this.

Gerry22scopes · #8 (**permalink**) 1st October 2007, 07:12 PM

I download a bit too, i'd say about 50GB a month average, is this "throttling" even possible, i've seen on another irish forum people complaining/wondering about this too.

It seems that this happens for a while and then everything is ok again, hopefully thats what will happen. I switched form Azureus to Utorrent to see if it would be better and got speed up to 50k/B max average is about 33.

Yeah it would be easier to watch my limit than leave my pc on for 2 days to d/l a 1.37 GB file, this slow speed defeats the purpose

Krlll · #9 (**permalink**) 3rd October 2007, 02:52 AM

I have read a few threads on this subject and even googling "IBB throttling torrents" throws up a few results(though invariably hijacked by people that dont even know what portforwarding is

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In the past week or two I have noticed a huge decrease in the speeds of my torrent traffic.
As far as I can make out they are throttling torrent traffic.
Went from nearly 200K on a 2MB connection to maybe 20-30K.
I can easily check if its IBB by plugging in the Smart connection that I also have access to and instantly get back up to the 200K mark again.
IBB after months and months of nagging you to fix my connection that was giving me terrible speeds on all traffic(which you eventually did)you pull this sh*t!!!!!!!!!!
Damn I hate IBB so much.LOL

BluthBanana · #10 (**permalink**) 3rd October 2007, 05:12 AM

My speeds are back to normal now. As are a few others i was speaking to on other forums. Hopefully it stays that way.

mickoneill30 · #11 (**permalink**) 3rd October 2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerry22scopes

I download a bit too, i'd say about 50GB a month average, is this "throttling" even possible, i've seen on another irish forum people complaining/wondering about this too.

Dunno if it's throttling or not but you'll read lots of forums for every provider about users that think their ISP is throttling because application X isn't downloading at full speed. 9 times out of 10 (when you bother helping them) it's not throttling.

I've two PCs at home with two different torrent programs. They're both configured with what I can see are identical settings (different ports obviously, and I've tried swapping ports). One will max out with no issues and the other normally hovers around the 20Kb -> 30Kb mark. If I only had one PC I'd be thinking throttling too

This post is obviously no help to the OP though. Slightly OT but might be relevant. I've noticed some of the usual torrent trackers are a lot less reliable these days. Keep an eye on what sites RIAA and MPAA are interested in.

carig1 · #12 (**permalink**) 5th October 2007, 11:53 PM

The reason for lack of download speeds is the sudden loss of u.s and Canadian with their superior upload capacity to the number 2 and 3 most popular torrent search engines. Until these users find a way to overcome the blocking of their ip address the lack of download speeds are going to continue. only piratebay seem to get full speed on their torrents and the smaller torrent search engines

Krlll · #13 (**permalink**) 6th October 2007, 12:00 AM

It is true that Isohunt and a couple of others have blocked U.S. IPs from their trackers but this is not the reason for slow downloads in this case.
To quote myself.

Quote:

I can easily check if its IBB by plugging in the Smart connection that I also have access to and instantly get back up to the 200K mark again.

This was tested using a well seeded Linux Distro.

Scotty · #14 (**permalink**) 29th October 2007, 11:51 AM

Yep I'm in the same boat. Have a 3mb IBB line and while speed tests are showing excellent results my torrent speeds have gone way down even with private trackers*. I play a game called TMN and, while I'm not getting lag on the server, I am getting booted a lot lately because "connection closed" and also I have a lot of problems with pokerstars lately where I'm losing connection although Internet is still fine. i have tried all these with and without router, firewall, etc to no avail.

*In work I have Magnet Business Broadband which IS port restricted... restricted to 200kBs. Every torrent I download in work comes in at 198-202Kbs after about 2.3 seconds and stays at it til its done. Wish IBB was the same!!

MARX_01 · #15 (**permalink**) 22nd November 2007, 12:26 AM

I think IBB are throttling, like some other ISPs using certain filters to figure out what source is producing the bandwidth demand, eg torrents, i have been using my IBB connection for ages getting decent download rates over html port 80 and for java apps, streaming etc. but getting very poor 4-20kbps for torrents.

After loads of messing around, i found that if you turn on transmission encryption the speeds soar to ~200kbps. by turning the encryption on the throttling filters cant tell the bandwidth is from torrents. Heres a thread that tells you how to do it with most popular torrent programs.
How To Encrypt BitTorrent Traffic | TorrentFreak

hope this helps. it worked for me.
let me know if it works for anyone else.

frodos63 · #16 (**permalink**) 25th November 2007, 09:03 PM

worked for me m8 thanks for the info gone from 5kB up and down on a 2mb line to 100KB up and down. again thanks for the info

JimmyJoeJohnson · #17 (**permalink**) 29th November 2007, 04:14 PM

Again I doubt it. I know for a fact that IBB don't throttle or shape traffic... could very easilly be the peers you're connecting to as when you encrypt the data it gets encrypted on their end too, thus making their ISPs' filters useless.

Doesn't mean IBB are doing the throttling itself though.

MARX_01 · #18 (**permalink**) 29th November 2007, 05:41 PM

You're right JimmyJoe it could be the peers isps having filters instead but after using for a while, it could not explain the constant increase. it would mean that more people would require encrypted transfers than non encrypted transfers, which i dont think is possible according to all the tracker stat information. (available in Azureus).

i could be wrong.

can i ask how you know for a FACT that IBB isnt throttling?

JimmyJoeJohnson · #19 (**permalink**) 30th November 2007, 09:38 AM

I work in the company, that's how I know. Yes one of our commercial directors did state recently in the Tribune that we do throttle when needs be but this was misinformation on his part. He's not a technical person at all and was working on misinformation, he doesn't actually have any idea how the network works at all because as I said... he's just a commercial director.

Satisfied?

frodos63 · #20 (**permalink**) 30th November 2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyJoeJohnson

Again I doubt it. I know for a fact that IBB don't throttle or shape traffic... could very easilly be the peers you're connecting to as when you encrypt the data it gets encrypted on their end too, thus making their ISPs' filters useless.

Doesn't mean IBB are doing the throttling itself though.

valid point jimmyjoe, but if true then you are implying that all the other isp's in the world are shaping traffic. I cant beleive that IBB is the only isp not shaping traffic,,