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View Poll Results: Is RIPWAVE worth the 25 euros?
1. no phone line so best alternative 0 0%
2. no phone line so no alternative 0 0%
3. welll worth the money 2 3.85%
4. cheap internet! 3 5.77%
5. cheap, but get what you pay for. 5 9.62%
6. little bit over priced 1 1.92%
7. over priced for broken connection 4 7.69%
8. slowband 8 15.38%
9. not even slowband. false advertising police! 29 55.77%
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Old 17th September 2005, 01:18 AM
whitehall whitehall is offline
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Default IBB ... Whats it all about really.............

thought it'd be interesting to get ur opions on IIB :!: :!:
then to see the results :!:
Most people were paying 25 and i know that may now have changed :idea:
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Old 18th September 2005, 09:25 PM
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Default my opinon ****

i have had iib for 9 months now, i had a 1 mg connection then i was upgraded,
for 3 months i have sent 7 emails and over 20 calls because i have problems with the connection. not once did they call me back or fix my problem, im downloading at a 56k speed and its beyond a f#';./' joke
their customer service is nonexsistant.when i finnally got hold of someone they gave me a link to test the speed and it says that you are downloading at 2 mg but when you go to download something it never works , 50 to 60 kb a sec
my opnion they are a bunch of cowboys :evil:
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Old 18th September 2005, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: my opinon ****

Quote:
Originally Posted by celtic fire
when i finnally got hold of someone they gave me a link to test the speed and it says that you are downloading at 2 mg
celtic, what site where u given to test with? this one or another?
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Old 23rd September 2005, 03:54 PM
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Default My own (pretty good) experience with IBB

I got Irish Broadband because I fought for 2 and half months with Eircom to get an ADSL connection.
For all this time, they weren't able to tell me why the phone cables weren't able to support the higher frequencies of the ADSL (compared to voice calls frequencies).
I fought claws and fangs, tried every departments, even internal lines, pretty much everyday for 2 months, and all the answer I was given each time was "It is not a guaranteed service and we are not obliged to provide phone lines that support ADSL".
The problem in this country (and many others), is that as long as you reserve yourself the right to display a disclaimer in tiny prints at the bottom of an agreement, you can do whatever you want. This is a joke (and the issue is not only about Eircom here).
But I ask you (the same as I asked them a hundred times) : if the quality of my phone line is so bad that I cannot get the services that my neighbour avails of, is it normal that I pay the same monthly recurrent charges as my neighbour for the line rental ? Anyway, my landlord, (who works in Eircom as a the person who maintains and monitors the quality of service of their public webservers) got in touch internally with the product manager for Eircom residential ADSL and after being sort of brushed off several times was discouraged with getting their service, and agreed to order Irish Broadband Breeze 2MB (the standard package , no the "lite" one).
After a little waiting of almost 4-5 weeks because the order paperwork had been misfiled or something, I had an installation team at home (3 days ago), very kind, who seemed professional enough installing the antenna.
These are pretty much my first days, but at (late) night time I'm getting an average of 1700 kilobits per second downstream and 1900 kilobits per second upstream.
In day time, it's not that good though, I get away with a very variable speed of 900 to 1500 kbps downstream.I usually get much more upstream speed than downstream speed, at times even 2300 kbps. I am not going to complain about the upstream, it's absolutely excellent to me, since 1/ they advertise 2000 kbps, 2/ i also take into account the TCP/ATM packets overhead (8-13% ?), 3/ I need a lot of upload for my web and FTP home servers.
Also i drop a few packets, and sometimes the whole connection goes dead (around 2-3 times a day) and then comes back after a minute or two, but i think that this is more likely due to : a) my bad quality WiFi LAN adapters, b) the fact that i do not have the optimal drivers for my WiFi LAN adapters, c) denied attacks on my router-firewall ?, d) a weak signal due to the layout of my house and the positionning of the different network nodes.
For information, I am in Dublin, I connect to the Ballymun access point tower. There is a new mast in Botanic in my direct line of sight, just a few meters away, that gives me a much stronger signal, but unfortunately, the technician said it was still in testing, he called his colleagues to see if he could connect me on it still, but they didn't know the information. Question : Once you're hooked to an access point, can you request to Irish Broadband to hook you up with an other one later on ? Has anyone ever done it ?
Anyway, overall I'm not complaining, I just wish the downstream speed was a bit more consistent. About their services, I have never called the technical support yet, so i can not pronounce myself on their service, but I know that the installation team, was kind, professional and seemed competent enough; the two sale people that I have the direct line of are very nice as well and most of all very reliable. Each time they said they would do something, they did it very promptly. And everytime I left them a message on their answering machine, they always called back 5 to 10 minutes later. I have never experienced this with Eircom people (even if I made them promise 4 times in the conversation to call me back within 2 days to let me know about the status of my request - even if it's to tell me that they still don't have any info - and I find this very refreshing and pleasant.

In summary, I am happy about the interaction I had with Irish broadband people (even though a small mistake has been made in the order) and I am almost satisfied on a technical basis (but I will have to follow this because it can change at anytime).

PS: I am originally french and I just called my brother in Paris to brag about my connection. He laughed at me saying that now, providers there offer 8MB/s packages for just 29.99 euros, including free and unlimited voice over IP and digital TV and for a contention ratio of none to 8:1 (for info the breeze 2M/s package is around 50 euros with a contention ratio of 24:1 and likely to increase soon). You can explain this easily if you know that France Telecom/Orange (national historically public phone operator, equivalent to Eircom here) had to degroup its backbone about 6-7 years ago, if my memory serves, and here it's just recent... But still, times have changed since I left Paris, lol ....
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Old 23rd September 2005, 04:00 PM
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Default Biggest residential french packages : 20Mbps !!

PPS: My brother also told me that the biggest packages some french providers have for residential users is 20Mbps... He didn't tell me the price, but i'm pretty sure that it's still affordable for a medium-class residential user.... 20 Mbps !! Now you've got to find the servers to respond with such speed, if you want to take advantage of it... But I wouldn't mind :P
PPPS: With the expansion of fiber optic coming into your living room the 20Mbps are also likely to double in a couple of years.
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Old 23rd September 2005, 06:12 PM
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Default Synchronous 100 Megabits per second for only 59 euro/month !

Let me correct myself, I just had a look around the net..., and CiteFibre, a Parisian ISP, announces the release in a couple of months of a 100 Mbps syncronous package - ie. 100Mbps downstream and 100MBPS UPSTREAM - for only 59 euros !!! This is 50 times my Breeze 2MB in *BOTH* ways for only 9 euros more than what i'm currently paying !! I can't believe it !When will Ireland and the ComReg, get its fingers out of its **** ??!!!
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Old 12th November 2005, 02:47 PM
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Lorian: you can have a 20MB for less than 15eur/month in France!
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Old 13th November 2005, 05:47 PM
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Quote:
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Lorian: you can have a 20MB for less than 15eur/month in France!
It's an unfair comparison.
While I would agree that broadband in Ireland is a bit of a joke comparing Ireland with a market the size of France (or the UK or Italy) is unfair.
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Old 1st August 2006, 05:08 PM
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Default a why?

why is it unfair
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Old 7th September 2006, 11:55 AM
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Population of Finland: 5,223,442 (July 2005 est.)
Population of Norway: 4,590,000.
Population of Ireland: 4,015,676

I don't think it's down to the size of the market.
Those countries have very good broadband services for a population
the size of Ireland's.

It's just down to the infrastructure and telecom operators / ISPs,
quality of their copper lines (phone lines ), number of relays they
have etc etc.

While it is still very early in the development of irish broadband
services, you would have hoped that in this day and age they'd
developed a service that is consistent and near his european
counterparts performances.

Yet what you get is an overpriced package for an under-achieving
connection. I don't get it.
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Old 7th September 2006, 12:08 PM
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Let's wait till Badcock and Brown the Australian firm take over eircom.. I am an aussie and I know that in Oz I can get ADSL2+ which is 24Mb down 1Mb Up. Again dependant on the distance and qualiy of copper from the exchange.

Telstra the incumbant there (like eircom) have been forced to let other operators in the exchanges as the Local Loop unbundling has worked over there through goverment intervention. Bertie will let eircom get away with what they want. when Badcock and Brown come in I can see changes. Smart telecom had the idea installing there own equipment in exchanges but got head butted by Eircom not allowing them in to most they wanted.

As for Ethernet - I can't see on a wholesale level how 50Mb to your door can come at under €60 per month - this must be a 50Mb connection but I would be supprise how over contended this is. At the end of the day the ISP need to make revenue from what he buys wholesale compared to the retail revenue.

By the way anyone got €60 million to buy Irish broadband which is what they are asking? I would give them €100 for the equipment.
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