NTL Speed - Irish ISP Test - Broadband Forum

Raymeo · #1 (**permalink**) 16th July 2008, 10:49 AM

Hi All,

not sure if anyone has been tracking their NTL broadband speeds, but having measured them consistently over the last two weeks I can confirm that their 12Mb broadband package is currently running a DL speed of on average 17Mb, and an average of 1.3Mb UL.

That is in Waterford anyway, not sure about rest of the country.

JK! · #2 (**permalink**) 16th July 2008, 07:47 PM

Have a look here >>> https://www.upc.ie/internet/

Taken from the UPC website.....

Here at Chorus ntl we are constantly working to bring our customers the best services we can, be it Digital TV, Broadband or Phone. As such we are proud to offer the fastest residential broadband in Ireland at a really great price. To find our how you can avail of the new speeds read on.

Customers currently on 1Mb Value, 3Mb Express or 6Mb Ultra can upgrade to 3Mb, 10Mb or 20Mb respectively for no extra charge. Simply fill in this form and we will take care of the rest. Further details are available on the form.

Customers on 2Mb Light, 6Mb Express or 12Mb Ultra will automatically be upgraded to 6Mb, 10Mb and 20Mb respectively.

We will be actioning all requests on an ongoing basis so you won’t have to wait too long before you see the change. If you are unsure what broadband pack you are currently on please call us free on 1908.

These speeds are also available to new broadband customers. Further information on all our packs can be found on this website using the links to the left.

samurai · #3 (**permalink**) 23rd July 2008, 01:37 PM

Is the 10mb upc broadband good because im thinking of getting it
Isit good for playing playstations and computer games online and is the download speed good aswell

JK! · #4 (**permalink**) 23rd July 2008, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samurai

Is the 10mb upc broadband good because im thinking of getting it
Isit good for playing playstations and computer games online and is the download speed good aswell

Im on the 10mb package myself...I dont use it for games but for everything else its very good...Heres a test I just done....>>

Speed test statistics
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Download speed: 9672304 bps
Upload speed: 985256 bps
Quality of service: 99 %
Download test type: socket
Upload test type: socket
Maximum download pause: 11 ms
Average download pause: 3 ms
Minimum round trip time to server: 36 ms
Average round trip time to server: 130 ms

VoIP test statistics
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Jitter: you --> server: 2.4 ms
Jitter: server --> you: off
Packet loss: you --> server: 0.0 %
Packet loss: server --> you: off
Packet discards: 0.0 %
Packets out of order: 0.0 %
Number of supported VoIP lines: 16
Estimated MOS score: 4.1

samurai · #5 (**permalink**) 23rd July 2008, 05:49 PM

Wow it seems good but would it work for games and if you live in an area with a bad signal would that affect it

samurai · #6 (**permalink**) 23rd July 2008, 05:55 PM

I used to have ripwave plus and i live in an area with a bad signal so ripwave plus used to be extremly bad for everthing would the 10mb upc broadband be extrely bad aswell

samurai · #7 (**permalink**) 23rd July 2008, 06:12 PM

Sorry i ment to say extremly in that last post

Raymeo · #8 (**permalink**) 24th July 2008, 08:40 PM

Hi samurai,

I have only ever been on NTL and the service two years ago had it's issues, however, i have played a couple of online games at 10Mb and they were pretty ok.

I believe Ripwave was wireless, whereas NTL is cable, so you should not see the same signal issues, and on that basis it should be a better service. I may be corrected, but in my experience, having investigated options in terms of moving from NTL, I have stayed as I believe their service to be the best value for money option available.

R

Michaelo · #9 (**permalink**) 1st October 2008, 02:29 PM

Just upgraded to 20MB...
In an effort to check my speed I went to several site, all of which reported different download speeds ranging form 5 to 19MB...
Speed test statistics
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Download speed: 10704888 bps
Upload speed: 907264 bps
Quality of service: 85 %
Download test type: socket
Upload test type: socket
Maximum download pause: 74 ms
Average download pause: 3 ms
Minimum round trip time to server: 60 ms
Average round trip time to server: 64 ms

VoIP test statistics
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Jitter: you --> server: 7.0 ms
Jitter: server --> you: off
Packet loss: you --> server: 0.0 %
Packet loss: server --> you: off
Packet discards: 0.0 %
Packets out of order: 0.0 %
Number of supported VoIP lines: 15
Estimated MOS score: 3.9

Other sites range from 6 to 10MB...
If I use speedtest.net I get around 18-19MB (consistently)...

Now the questions is... which is giving the correct results?

Mike

byrne3hands · #10 (**permalink**) 2nd October 2008, 09:01 PM

I don't really understand these results but im meant to have 20MB as that's what im paying 40euro a month for but my internet seems slow, not just on my laptop but also mate house mates too.

Could anyone tell me if these results say i have a 20MB line?

Speed test statistics

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Download speed: 1101232 bps

Upload speed: 493136 bps

Quality of service: 68 %

Download test type: socket

Upload test type: socket

Maximum download pause: 114 ms

Average download pause: 15 ms

Minimum round trip time to server: 60 ms

Average round trip time to server: 73 ms

Thanks for all your help

Michaelo · #11 (**permalink**) 4th October 2008, 04:44 PM

Your results point to a 1MB line with 512kb upload... and that's my point...

The results depend on 1) the test site you use and 2 ) the time of day (to a lesser extent)...

Try the other test site I posted in my first post and you will get a different result... I am convinced the other site gives a more realistic result...

A second, and more accurate method to determine download speed is to download a file from a fast server...
For example, you can download most Linux distros form Irish mirrors, so find a distro that gives you the options to download from an Irish mirror and download the file... (you can cancel the download after about thirty seconds, once you record the download speed)...

In my case I downloaded Ubunto form an Irish mirror and it downloaded at over 2MB a second... This equates to a 20MB line...

A rule of thumb...
1MB line, gives a actual download speed of 100kbs
2MB line, gives a actual download speed of 200kbs
10MB line, gives actual download speed of 1,000.000 (1 Meg/second)
20 MB line, gives actual download speed of 2,000,000 (2 Meg/second)

100,000 bits per second for each 1MB of bandwidth...

So my 2MB download speed equates to a 20MB bandwidth...
Mike

byrne3hands · #12 (**permalink**) 4th October 2008, 04:59 PM

Cheers mate,

I got 3MB on speedtest.net, it's funny that i got a letter off NTL asking if i want to upgrade to 10MB or 20MB when i already pay for the 20MB that's why i ran the test in the first place. i will have to give them a ring to see what they think there giving me.

Thanks again

v00 · #13 (**permalink**) 6th October 2008, 02:31 PM

Hi folks,

Since i bought this broadband i got huge ping jumps during the day 40 - 320 , on the night it gets quiet but ping still is changing but in smaller way. 40-120

I called the up few times and i managed to locate the fault. It is between my machine and the Default Gateway.

This is my ping to the gateway :

Badanie 89.100.150.1 z użyciem 32 bajtów danych:

Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=6ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=32ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=87ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=27ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=46ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=31ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=30ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=32ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=13ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=27ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=14ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=32ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=13ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=47ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=29ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=16ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=62ms TTL=255
Odpowiedź z 89.100.150.1: bajtów=32 czas=60ms TTL=255

Notice that if you ping your gateway ping shouldnt be more than 10 ms.
You can find the adress of your Defeult Gateway by ipconfig /all command from the command line.

This is the traceroute :

C:\Documents and Settings\tom#>tracert Google

Trasa śledzenia do Google [209.85.135.99]
przewyższa maksymalną liczbę przeskoków 30

1 18 ms 17 ms 40 ms 10.92.0.1
2 29 ms 79 ms 9 ms 089-101-162081.ntlworld.ie [89.101.162.81]
3 45 ms 14 ms 60 ms ie-dub01a-ra4-xe-0-2-0-0.aorta.net [213.46.165.8
1]
4 35 ms 55 ms 106 ms nl-ams05a-rd1-gige-3-0.aorta.net [213.46.160.97]

5 47 ms 67 ms 37 ms de-fra01a-rd2-pos-12-0.aorta.net [213.46.160.217
]
6 57 ms 57 ms 45 ms 213.46.179.110.aorta.net [213.46.179.110]
7 37 ms 72 ms 51 ms 72.14.198.165
8 65 ms 42 ms 73 ms 209.85.249.178
9 61 ms 46 ms 46 ms 72.14.238.128
10 65 ms 55 ms 41 ms 209.85.130.21
11 43 ms 47 ms 53 ms 209.85.253.22
12 54 ms 103 ms 42 ms mu-in-f99.google.com [209.85.135.99]

Śledzenie zakończone.

As you can see from the traceroute, lag is indicated on almost every hop.

Could anyone who uses ntl do the traceroute for comparission?

oh almost forgot about the speedtest.net thumb

this is a joke....

just a reminder - i got 20MBIT/S

my machine is virus free, got fresh system installed xp sp3 tested it its clean the spyware softwares dont find nothing except the cookies of course

bought new network card..

any ideas whats going on?

the Duke · #14 (**permalink**) 6th October 2008, 10:24 PM

Folks,

Joined NTL a few weeks ago. I have the 20Mb package and the phone as well.

I have to admit I am well impressed.

Here is a speed test (speedtest.net) I took a few minutes ago

Past Results Summary

Last Test Date:10/6/2008
Total Tests Taken:16
Fastest Download:19582 kb/s
Fastest Upload:1450 kb/s
Average Download:18667 kb/s
Average Upload:1379 kb/s

I changed and got rid of UTV. My 3Mb connection with UTV I was getting on average 0.2Mb!!!! I have one reading of 0.01Mb.

The Duke

v00 · #15 (**permalink**) 7th October 2008, 08:56 AM

yes 20 mbit down and 1,5 mbit up

thats how it should work

you're a lucky man duke =]

Lex · #16 (**permalink**) 7th October 2008, 07:35 PM

hi, i'm going to change my 3Mb Irish Broadband to 20Mb ntl. Will it worth it. What you think?

v00 · #17 (**permalink**) 8th October 2008, 11:40 AM

yes its definitely worth it , alot of users got great speeds but u must remember to have a decent machine.

Yesterday i discovered that my machine is too slow for 20 mbit from ntl

friend of mine got a new laptop and he got 10 mbits of download via wi-fi on my broadband

im connected via cable and got quite old machine but that doesnt say why i got those ping changes anyway....

one more thing

when the ntl folks will come to start the service for you - dont let them out untill they will show you on the speedtest.net 20 mbits of download

thats my advice