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I would like to know if there are other users having trouble getting torrent download problems like me. I have tried many torrent programs like bit torrent and Azureus(which is the one I'm tring to get to work)... I keep getting NAT errors, I cannot get port forwarding to work, I have tried changing ports but every one I try is refused. I dont use a router, and disabling antivirus and firewall doesnt help either... I would like to know if other users of Regional Broadband have similar problems?
I once tried to download a linux distro using bit torrent. Never got anywhere.
My situation was similar to yours - no router/firewall etc.
There is a website - called "shields -up" I think - that scans your ports. When I ran the test EVERY port was closed - this suggested that my ISP was actively blocking ports. Accordingly any form of P2P is difficult.
Conventional wisdom, as I then read, is that you should therefore change your ISP, at which point I laughed - I consider myself to be very lucky to get broadband at all, even if it only works in fair weather and is as lumpy as the road outside my door.
In the end I tried eMule (47c). This worked well enough, even though I only got a Low ID (bad) I was able to download at speeds up to on occasion of 50 Kbs (or is it KBs?).
Unfortunately after the last broadband blackout (last week) it hasn't worked at all. This has happened before so I'll let it alone for a while.
you have the exact problems as me, what is you ISP? the only programs I can get to work with a little bit of speed is emule(low id) -50 kbs but Limewire works the fastest for me and I sometimes get up to 80-100kbs for popular files. I have tried a port scan before and I too have no open ports..I have sent a few emails to Regional Broadband to ask about then ports but they didnt reply. I will phone them in a few days, it will be interesting to hear what they say... But I have 8 months left on my contract so there is little I can do I only got Regional Broadband because they where the only provider in my area......
1: Your ISP isn't blocking the ports.
2: Your router is configured to forward the ports to your PC.
3: Your firewall on your PC is configured to allow the port in.
4: Your torrent client is configured for the port your testing and is running.
Make sure those last 3 are true before you look at your ISP. Obviously not everyone has a router so some can ignore point 2. You should always have a firewall though. If you don't you're asking for trouble.
I frequently read posts from users that have problem with one of the above blaming their ISP.
I've had it myself. 2 torrent apps on one PC and couldn't get one of them to work correctly when I had configured all the relevant settings exactly the same as the working app. Both weren't running at the same time obviously.
You should be able to rule out your ISP with a phone call. Ask them if they filter torrent traffic or if they prioritise any ports. I don't think they'd lie about that. They either do or they don't.
Martin. It's quite common to receive those errors when you do have a router and/or firewall in play. However, I've noted from your first post that you're not using a router? If so, why did you try port forwarding?
The only thing I can think of is if you're not using a router, that there is a firewall at work. Check the Security Center in Control Panel (WinXP SP2) to verify if you're indeed unprotected. If not, it will tell you what program is protecting you. Just remember, the Azureus listen port (the port you choose) is applicable for both TCP and UDP protocols.
I have already tried checking the windows firewall settings and set exceptions, and I have the same port for TCP and UDP protocols,
And as I said earlier I even disabled the windows firewall to see if it made a difference.
I also tried another PC which has no firewall/antivirus and I still get the same results....
First thing's first. You have a standalone modem running your connection. It may be a good idea to disable this portion of the Azureus configuration (see screenshot).
UPnP would apply to routers that are Universal Plug 'n' Play compatible only.
Also, there are some nice guides on the web to help you configure Azureus properly. Here's one in particular:
Important:
In this article he mentions what you should allocate to the upload speed. I have 384kbits for my upload, so I wouldn't go any higher than 20kb/sec to be safe. If yours is 256kbits, then consider 13-14kb/sec to be the maximum. For a 128kbit upload, 6-7kb/sec. Otherwise, to go higher, bandwidth becomes an issue and the downloads come down slower. Don't go too low either, as torrents depend on its peers to upload for more effiency. Always give the maximum amount you can afford, and you'll be better likely to receive as much as possible from any given torrent file (as your bandwidth won't be compromised). NEVER put a value of 0 for the upload. That means it'll take an unlimited amount (what it can milk out of you), leaving you with nearly no bandwidth.
If that article doesn't help, you should try using Google to find another.
At this stage I have gave up on getting torrents to work, I have tried everything, different pcs, even one with no antivirus or firewall, help pages from torrent websites and still no luck,
Regional use NAT on their side. I had to get them to give me a public I address for my Xbox360 to get the NAT state to open and it fixed my Torrents problems as well. Stil not great download speeds but better than they were
My ISP is now using some form of traffic aware blocker software - if I use a P2P client with many connections I get all broad band switched down to 20kps.
Fair enough as they do explicity say no P2P.
And. like most of the netizens in this country, I have NO CHOICE in ISP so.. last few weeks I've been P2P free.
5 Euro a month for a VPN strikes me as cheap. I've an idea that it gets around the too many connections thing - as there should only be one connection visible to the ISP.
I may try it this weekend - afterall 'tis only a fiver.
Regional use NAT on their side. I had to get them to give me a public I address for my Xbox360 to get the NAT state to open and it fixed my Torrents problems as well. Stil not great download speeds but better than they were
Can someone enlighten me on this post... I am with Regional, find them very good although working from home in the afternoon takes some patience as the connection goes terribly slow... Anyway as I'm getting into gaming online and do use torrents to download... what would I have to ask them to do here and why would they provide me with this is it is not standard?
Any assistance is appreciated you can be technical, I'm fairly savvy just IP ain't my thing...
Last edited by noffles; 4th February 2008 at 08:13 PM..
Its a NAT problem that slow's down torrents with Regional Broadband.
In torrent programs using Regional Broadband, all connections are local, and you need remote connections aswell to get decent speeds..
Getting a public address should help, I havent asked Regional yet...
Its a NAT problem that slow's down torrents with Regional Broadband.
In torrent programs using Regional Broadband, all connections are local, and you need remote connections aswell to get decent speeds..
Getting a public address should help, I havent asked Regional yet...
I rang them and told them that the NAT setting on my Xbox 360 was moderate and that I wanted it to be open so I could connect to all players on line, they issued me with a public IP address on their side and this solved the NAT issue but also the torrents issue.
I spoke to one of their techs the other day and he said that all P2P users from an area would be placed in a pool of IP addresses and have to fight with each other fr bandwidth so it might not be a good idea to mention torrents to them.
I rang them and told them that the NAT setting on my Xbox 360 was moderate and that I wanted it to be open so I could connect to all players on line, they issued me with a public IP address on their side and this solved the NAT issue but also the torrents issue.
I spoke to one of their techs the other day and he said that all P2P users from an area would be placed in a pool of IP addresses and have to fight with each other fr bandwidth so it might not be a good idea to mention torrents to them.
Will give them a ring today then as they seem helpful enough, I'll use my PS3 as the reason I'm looking for a public IP address...
So if I get this address where do I use it and obviously HOW?
You don't need to do anything, they will assign you a public ip address on their side
Well I have mailed them yesterday and asked for a public IP address, whether they will do this is another thing.
This past week I have had awful upload and download speeds from them, I'm wondering if they are struggling with contention now that they may be busier? I hope not as the original service was very good but lately seems to be very poor.
I have taken a number of speed tests from this site and mailed it to them in an excel sheet, hopefully they'll respond to this and see what they can do, as a homeworker I NEED some speed!!
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Regional Broadband and torrent software 
I only got Regional Broadband because they where the only provider in my area...... 
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